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#1 Mar 13, 2010 1:27pm

vince_vega
Sep 16, 2003
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im a cheapskate!

One question............ Best free internet security?

Discuss.


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#2 Mar 13, 2010 1:41pm

bsoltan
Oct 28, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

If you use XP:

1. Common Sense (don't visit, click on, download, open, look at anything that might be dodgy).
2. Up to date system, including operating system, web browser etc.
3. AVG or Avast or Avira. Antivirus.
4. Spybot Search&Destroy, AntiMalware, Malwarebytes. For Malware etc.
5. Enable Windows Firewall (if you use Windows, and are behind a hardware router this is fine).

I've heard Microsoft's new security tool is decent as well.

More info can probably be found if you search.


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#3 Mar 13, 2010 1:56pm

madwedge
Jun 7, 2007

Re: im a cheapskate!

bsoltan wrote:

If you use XP:

1. Common Sense (don't visit, click on, download, open, look at anything that might be dodgy).
2. Up to date system, including operating system, web browser etc.
3. AVG or Avast or Avira. Antivirus.
4. Spybot Search&Destroy, AntiMalware, Malwarebytes. For Malware etc.
5. Enable Windows Firewall (if you use Windows, and are behind a hardware router this is fine).

I've heard Microsoft's new security tool is decent as well.

More info can probably be found if you search.

+1000! Do this.  I use Vista and have Avast Antivirus and Spybot S&D, and never have a problem.


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#4 Mar 13, 2010 1:59pm

SuPerNoVi
Mar 13, 2004
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Re: im a cheapskate!

I third Avast. AVG has gone down hill, whilst Avast has gone up smile


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#5 Mar 13, 2010 2:53pm

Fergal
Nov 14, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

Make Windows Vista and 7 firewalls fully controllable with prompts for new programs that want an internet connection with firewall control.


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#6 Mar 13, 2010 3:11pm

Gavpowell
May 18, 2007
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Re: im a cheapskate!

Avira's update servers are unreliable these days too, and they pester you with ads. Avast doesn't. AVG is useless these days, as is spybot S&D. Download a copy of Combofix while you're at it and keep it in case of emergency - it'll find any rootkits that lead to seemingly endless infetions evn after malwarebytes is done.

Oh, and the windows firewall is almost totally pointless, so don't bother with it - I disable that and windows defender the moment I get to a PC.

Gavpowell last edited this patent nonsense on Mar 13, 2010 at 3:11pm

 

#7 Mar 13, 2010 5:00pm

Tetras
Dec 2, 2004

Re: im a cheapskate!

One question............ Best free internet security?

You might find this interesting:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/2009-antivi … -1315.html

 

#8 Mar 15, 2010 5:33pm

Fergal
Nov 14, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

Gavpowell wrote:

Avira's update servers are unreliable these days too, and they pester you with ads. Avast doesn't. AVG is useless these days, as is spybot S&D. Download a copy of Combofix while you're at it and keep it in case of emergency - it'll find any rootkits that lead to seemingly endless infetions evn after malwarebytes is done.

Oh, and the windows firewall is almost totally pointless, so don't bother with it - I disable that and windows defender the moment I get to a PC.

Vista and Windows 7 firewalls are proper firewalls, with both inbound and outbound rules. Not pointless at all.


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#9 Mar 15, 2010 5:43pm

Gavpowell
May 18, 2007
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Re: im a cheapskate!

Well the majority of PCs are on routers these days, so the windows firewall is redundant at best compared to a hardware firewall - it's surely not going to perform better than the router?

But I concede the poitn that in general, not every windows firewall is pointless.

Gavpowell last edited this patent nonsense on Mar 15, 2010 at 5:46pm

 

#10 Mar 15, 2010 6:39pm

Rich
Mar 11, 2004
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Re: im a cheapskate!

You can turn off Avira's adverts with a quick registry tweak


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#11 Mar 16, 2010 5:25am

vince_vega
Sep 16, 2003
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Re: im a cheapskate!

Thanks for the help guys, I did a bit of digging and avast gets a bit of a pasting so I'm at a loss now as I don't trust AVG after I had it and then upgraded to eset smart security and when I first scanned my system it found about 34 infections!!!

So just how good is avast these days?


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#12 Mar 16, 2010 5:29am

SuPerNoVi
Mar 13, 2004
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Re: im a cheapskate!

I trust Avast, it works well. It has stopped a fair few things whilst I was browsing random sites.

It's free, try it and see if you get on with it.

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#13 Mar 16, 2010 5:43am

tom_hargreaves
Aug 9, 2005
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Re: im a cheapskate!

I use Avast also and think it's brilliant, doesn't intrude on me while i'm using my system or playing games. Doesn't cause any browser or system slowdown either.


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#14 Mar 16, 2010 6:43am

Fergal
Nov 14, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

Gavpowell wrote:

Well the majority of PCs are on routers these days, so the windows firewall is redundant at best compared to a hardware firewall - it's surely not going to perform better than the router?

But I concede the poitn that in general, not every windows firewall is pointless.

Software firewalls allow you to pick and choose what applications you want and do not want communicating with the outside world. You cannot have this type of granular control with a hardware firewalls.

For me, sitting behind a router with basic firewall it is essential to have a software firewall to add that extra level of control.


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#15 Mar 16, 2010 7:22am

tom_hargreaves
Aug 9, 2005
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Re: im a cheapskate!

Anything that Windows has built in that is security related is turned off on my system, because the security center is just that annoying.

Avast has everything included. It monitors your web browser in real time for dodgy sites etc, and scans all incoming emails. Aswell as having a firewall in place, which for me hasn't blocked any games or anything from working every 3 seconds like half of the other Anti Virus suites do.


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#16 Mar 16, 2010 7:36am

JohnN
Jun 2, 2004
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Re: im a cheapskate!

+1 for Avast, too.
And I changed from AVG when it went a bit off upgrade-wise about 6 months or so back.

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#17 Mar 16, 2010 12:49pm

vince_vega
Sep 16, 2003
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Re: im a cheapskate!

Ok I have gone down the route of-Avast! Spybot and Windows Security Essentials
everything seems ok so far, I just have one question and that is, How effective is the windows firewall as i am not sure i trust it!!


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#18 Mar 16, 2010 1:14pm

madwedge
Jun 7, 2007

Re: im a cheapskate!

vince_vega wrote:

Ok I have gone down the route of-Avast! Spybot and Windows Security Essentials
everything seems ok so far, I just have one question and that is, How effective is the windows firewall as i am not sure i trust it!!

If you're going through a Router then ignore it!  I don't even have mine on and I never have any issues.


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#19 Mar 17, 2010 7:47am

JohnN
Jun 2, 2004
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Re: im a cheapskate!

If you / we are sold on Avast for AV, can I redirect this thread (slightly) into the requirement or not for a software firewall?

I like many others have my own router: PC, Xbox, WiFi. So why does this do away with the need for a s/w firewall?

The reason I'm asking is I am currently running Comodo and, well, it's a pain in the arse.

It's constantly popping up "doing it's job". I sometimes thinks it's more intrusive than a virus...

So if I really don't need it, off it comes!

BR
JN


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#20 Mar 17, 2010 8:22am

SgtDave
Jun 4, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

it depends, do you go on dogdy websties or open unsolicited emails? if you do you need all the protection you can get, if you are pc/web savvy then you can happily turn off windows firewall/any other software firewall so long as your router has a firewall built in.


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#21 Mar 17, 2010 8:48am

Fergal
Nov 14, 2003

Re: im a cheapskate!

JohnN wrote:

If you / we are sold on Avast for AV, can I redirect this thread (slightly) into the requirement or not for a software firewall?

I like many others have my own router: PC, Xbox, WiFi. So why does this do away with the need for a s/w firewall?

The reason I'm asking is I am currently running Comodo and, well, it's a pain in the arse.

It's constantly popping up "doing it's job". I sometimes thinks it's more intrusive than a virus...

So if I really don't need it, off it comes!

BR
JN

A software firewall which prompts the first time an application wants an internet connection enabling you to allow or deny that application access gives you a great level of control. You can prevent applications which you may not trust communicating with the outside world.

On hardware firewalls, or at least on basic hardware firewalls, you cannot have control on a per application basis like you can with a software firewall.

Vista or 7 firewalls with Firewall Control are all you need, and yes they are reliable.

If you have a laptop on the move connecting to may different access points, then you need a software firewall which allows you to create Zones etc.


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